Men v.s Wild

Men v.s Wild

September 28, 2012 Uncategorized 0

I live in the beautiful state of Virginia, Population: 8,001,024. We have a great community of outdoorsman that care for the land. I am one of them. We love to fish and hunt. I personally really enjoy the ageless feeling of touching base with nature and enjoying all it offers. Among this group are some of the most practiced and well-trained survivalist. These guys can create great snare traps and weapons from mere twigs and rubble. Still, imagine social calamity and a time when food would become scarce. Imagine, just for a second, a large segment of that population loading rifles and hunting to survive.

We are talking sheer chaos here. The toll that this would take on the land would be devastating. I spoke with Andrew J. Jackson or he spoke of the hunting grounds of his midwest hometown

Our goose and deer populations are still in recovery from the original great depression when much of the community turned to forest for food

It is simply not realistic. The friendly fire casualties would be through the roof. Not to mention the amount of wildlife would simply not sustain such a large and growing population. I cant even see the forests being able to support such a great need for fire wood from such a large group come the cold Northern Winters.

I can appreciate learning your bushcraft and survival skills but what it comes down to is there are simply too many of us to live off the land like Survivorman. How could we forage for wild edibles? All 8,000,000,000 of us. What are the odds of setting a snare up overnight and it not being robbed by an insomniac.

Instead we must consider some home preparations, mobile preps and as I always say the ability to support and protect your community. T.V survivalists are incredibly skilled individuals but the ability to survive off the bounty of the earth for one many is a much different adventure than for 1,000,000,000. It will take us time to build these relationships but it is important to go to your community meetings and push for community activities and emergency plans.

Not discounting these skills in any way. The ability to stay alive in an emergency situation is ultra valuable. Being able to manipulate raw materials and create fire is such an important skill and one that surely could save lives. I just want everyone to realize that it is simply not the answer to situation facing such massive needs. The resources will simply not be there. It will a stark reality check when the population comes to understand it is not the earths responsibility to keep us alive. When in fact it is just the opposite.


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  1. Nathan says:

    You’re right on the money with this thinking. It’s argued that it takes between 1 to 3 square miles per person for renewable hunter-gatherer survival. We’ll be very positive and assume it’s only 1 square mile instead of 3. For the sake of brevity, let’s just look at the lower 48 states. Of this, 2,959,064.44 square miles (7,663,941.7 km2) is land. We’ll say 3 million square miles (rounded up). The 2010 census population was 306,675,006, We subtract Alaska (Population, 2011 estimate, 722,718), and Hawaii (Population, 2011 estimate, 1,374,810). That gives us an estimated 304,577,478 people living in the lower 48 states (we aren’t counting the illegals or “other” people living here that the census doesn’t count). We also know that not all of the lower 48 states will support a hunter-gatherer foraging lifestyle. Some places are desolate barren areas, mountain peaks, heavily built-up metro areas, and deserts without accessible water. Let’s be conservative and only cut the active foraging area of the U.S. by 1/3 (I’d say it’s closer to 1/2). We’re also assuming that the hunter-gatherer system is pretty much the only one available to us. Big agri-business won’t have the fuel or infrastructure to exist. So here is our observation:

    Available land area for hunter-gatherer activity: 2,000,000 square miles (rounded and cut by 1/3).
    Estimated population: 304,500,000 (rounded)
    Estimated population (%) able to hunt/gather: 0.0066% (rounded)
    Estimated population (%) left over: 99.9934% (rounded)

    This has been estimated with a “best case” perspective. Now let it sink in. A zombie apocalypse might be the best we can hope for. Zombie’s typically aren’t shooting at you, kidnapping and ransoming family members, stealing your supplies, working and thinking together as a group, using tools or vehicles, using deceptive and mischievous methods, or even burning down a forest or home. The sheer number of sheeple running around in a panic will be overwhelming. Historically, many tribal wars have been fought over disputed hunting grounds.

    Have you ever studied the Inverse-Square Law?

    If you apply it to population density, you’ll quickly understand why it is so important to be out in the middle of nowhere during and after a collapse. Simply less sheeple. Physically less of them around, and they use up resources trying to get to where you are. If you only have to compete with 300 people for food, instead of starting out competing with 300,000 you’re already off to a better start. If you are actively farming, you also increase your ability to feed more people, but it would never be on a Big Agri-business scale post-SHTF. Just thought this would give you a different perspective to consider.


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